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		<title>By: Tom Gerace</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gerace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a recent news story about some &quot;scientist&quot; who concluded that &quot;social networking is damaging our childrens brains&quot;...the claim was that social websites and their &quot;instant gratification&quot; is &quot;rewiring&quot; our kids brains and causing social adaptation problems and a lack of ability to concentrate. Of course there was no information about this &quot;scientist&quot; or his/her &quot;research&quot;. 

I find it odd how &quot;rewiring&quot; of a brain in a different pattern equates to &quot;damage&quot; and I&#039;m wagering that the first generations to have telephones, televisions, photographs and recorded sound probably experienced similar &quot;rewiring&quot;...are we &quot;damaged&quot; because our generation grew up during the development of the PC and video game? Its far to convenient how &quot;the new generation&quot; always seems to be &quot;broken&quot; in some way. 

Similarly, I&#039;m leery of LTC Grossmans deductive leap that violent video games can bear the lions share of the blame for school shootings and violence. There seems to be human tendency to place the bulk of the &quot;blame&quot; on one element of what I see as a complex web of influences and causes in human behavior. 

On the flip side...I think that there is a &quot;reverse generational relationship&quot; going on in police administration. The senior leadership tends to be the &quot;older generation&quot; that sometimes believes that their way was the &quot;best&quot; way and the &quot;new kids&quot; are all screwed up from all that rock n roll and video gaming...the old &quot;for every finger you point-three point back at you&quot; saying may be applicable in some of this &quot;X-Y&quot; stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a recent news story about some &#8220;scientist&#8221; who concluded that &#8220;social networking is damaging our childrens brains&#8221;&#8230;the claim was that social websites and their &#8220;instant gratification&#8221; is &#8220;rewiring&#8221; our kids brains and causing social adaptation problems and a lack of ability to concentrate. Of course there was no information about this &#8220;scientist&#8221; or his/her &#8220;research&#8221;. </p>
<p>I find it odd how &#8220;rewiring&#8221; of a brain in a different pattern equates to &#8220;damage&#8221; and I&#8217;m wagering that the first generations to have telephones, televisions, photographs and recorded sound probably experienced similar &#8220;rewiring&#8221;&#8230;are we &#8220;damaged&#8221; because our generation grew up during the development of the PC and video game? Its far to convenient how &#8220;the new generation&#8221; always seems to be &#8220;broken&#8221; in some way. </p>
<p>Similarly, I&#8217;m leery of LTC Grossmans deductive leap that violent video games can bear the lions share of the blame for school shootings and violence. There seems to be human tendency to place the bulk of the &#8220;blame&#8221; on one element of what I see as a complex web of influences and causes in human behavior. </p>
<p>On the flip side&#8230;I think that there is a &#8220;reverse generational relationship&#8221; going on in police administration. The senior leadership tends to be the &#8220;older generation&#8221; that sometimes believes that their way was the &#8220;best&#8221; way and the &#8220;new kids&#8221; are all screwed up from all that rock n roll and video gaming&#8230;the old &#8220;for every finger you point-three point back at you&#8221; saying may be applicable in some of this &#8220;X-Y&#8221; stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Christa Miller</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Christa Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom -- LOL @ &quot;Im betting that the cavemen thought that that newfangled “fire” thing was going to make the kids soft and weak&quot;! You have a point. At the same time, though, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s enough to be aware of overall intergenerational differences and the need for respect; every generation has a specific hallmark (or more), and that&#039;s what leaders need to be aware of -- it more effectively helps them pick battles and set boundaries.

In this case, rather than creating a blanket &quot;no social networking&quot; policy, police leaders who understand that social networking is part of this generation&#039;s culture will be in a better position to help young officers use it to maximum personal and departmental effectiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8212; LOL @ &#8220;Im betting that the cavemen thought that that newfangled “fire” thing was going to make the kids soft and weak&#8221;! You have a point. At the same time, though, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s enough to be aware of overall intergenerational differences and the need for respect; every generation has a specific hallmark (or more), and that&#8217;s what leaders need to be aware of &#8212; it more effectively helps them pick battles and set boundaries.</p>
<p>In this case, rather than creating a blanket &#8220;no social networking&#8221; policy, police leaders who understand that social networking is part of this generation&#8217;s culture will be in a better position to help young officers use it to maximum personal and departmental effectiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gerace</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gerace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal opinion on the whole &quot;generation differences&quot; is that while yes, there are differences between generations; I believe that EVERY generation likes to think that the new generation is somehow &quot;inferior&quot; to their own. Rock and Roll is ruining our youth...hippies...television...etc. etc. etc. Im betting that the cavemen thought that that newfangled &quot;fire&quot; thing was going to make the kids soft and weak.

I dont know how much stock I place in this whole &quot;X vs. Y&quot; stuff......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal opinion on the whole &#8220;generation differences&#8221; is that while yes, there are differences between generations; I believe that EVERY generation likes to think that the new generation is somehow &#8220;inferior&#8221; to their own. Rock and Roll is ruining our youth&#8230;hippies&#8230;television&#8230;etc. etc. etc. Im betting that the cavemen thought that that newfangled &#8220;fire&#8221; thing was going to make the kids soft and weak.</p>
<p>I dont know how much stock I place in this whole &#8220;X vs. Y&#8221; stuff&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christa Miller</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Christa Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t disagree, Mack. One of the articles I linked to (I think) talks about how Gen Y will happily change careers if they don&#039;t find fulfillment. Not just jobs -- careers! So satisfaction is key, whether it&#039;s monetary (again, they&#039;ll go to larger departments) or self-actualizing (departments that invest in careers).

The lt. I interviewed at Eustis did bring up the idea that the Gen Y&#039;ers need to be guided in the norms of police culture. They don&#039;t always see that their &quot;sense of entitlement&quot; can be a negative as well as a positive. Some end up doing stupid things, like Tasing a 15-year-old at a drinking party. Others don&#039;t see the value of a long-term career. The latter are the ones that police departments need to be grooming. I see it as a necessary give-and-take of loyalties between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t disagree, Mack. One of the articles I linked to (I think) talks about how Gen Y will happily change careers if they don&#8217;t find fulfillment. Not just jobs &#8212; careers! So satisfaction is key, whether it&#8217;s monetary (again, they&#8217;ll go to larger departments) or self-actualizing (departments that invest in careers).</p>
<p>The lt. I interviewed at Eustis did bring up the idea that the Gen Y&#8217;ers need to be guided in the norms of police culture. They don&#8217;t always see that their &#8220;sense of entitlement&#8221; can be a negative as well as a positive. Some end up doing stupid things, like Tasing a 15-year-old at a drinking party. Others don&#8217;t see the value of a long-term career. The latter are the ones that police departments need to be grooming. I see it as a necessary give-and-take of loyalties between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Mack Pettigrew</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack Pettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today the young guns want the cash. I believe they really like the job but do they have the fire in their belly like we had when we came on? I don&#039;t think so. We are voting on a new contract which I think is pretty good but lots of rumbling because we are not number one...come on in this day and age be thankful. I put a poll on the cops society website asking....are cops underpaid?

A...YES
A....NO
A....SHIT no would do it for free

I think many of us would do it for almost free hey we do have to support the family but we do really love the job that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today the young guns want the cash. I believe they really like the job but do they have the fire in their belly like we had when we came on? I don&#8217;t think so. We are voting on a new contract which I think is pretty good but lots of rumbling because we are not number one&#8230;come on in this day and age be thankful. I put a poll on the cops society website asking&#8230;.are cops underpaid?</p>
<p>A&#8230;YES<br />
A&#8230;.NO<br />
A&#8230;.SHIT no would do it for free</p>
<p>I think many of us would do it for almost free hey we do have to support the family but we do really love the job that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Christa Miller</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Christa Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t think Houston and Dallas PD&#039;s competing signing bonuses have hurt their recruiting efforts. :) But at the same time, salary/benefits shouldn&#039;t be seen as the end-all be-all of recruiting. Agencies are going to have to make sure their work environments are positive if they&#039;re going to retain the Gen Y&#039;ers, who have been shown to walk if they don&#039;t see their loyalty repaid.

In some ways I think the smaller agencies (who can&#039;t afford pay incentives to begin with) are better positioned to groom tomorrow&#039;s LE leaders by investing in them. That&#039;s what&#039;s behind a lot of the nonmonetary incentives being put in place in one of the PDs I interviewed, Eustis FL. That said, I think those young people for whom money is more important, will go to the larger agencies. But the smaller ones still have a chance to compete if they have strong nonmonetary support in place.

Does that make more sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think Houston and Dallas PD&#8217;s competing signing bonuses have hurt their recruiting efforts. <img src='http://cops2point0.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But at the same time, salary/benefits shouldn&#8217;t be seen as the end-all be-all of recruiting. Agencies are going to have to make sure their work environments are positive if they&#8217;re going to retain the Gen Y&#8217;ers, who have been shown to walk if they don&#8217;t see their loyalty repaid.</p>
<p>In some ways I think the smaller agencies (who can&#8217;t afford pay incentives to begin with) are better positioned to groom tomorrow&#8217;s LE leaders by investing in them. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s behind a lot of the nonmonetary incentives being put in place in one of the PDs I interviewed, Eustis FL. That said, I think those young people for whom money is more important, will go to the larger agencies. But the smaller ones still have a chance to compete if they have strong nonmonetary support in place.</p>
<p>Does that make more sense?</p>
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		<title>By: philosophicalcop</title>
		<link>http://cops2point0.com/2009/02/09/what-gen-y-means-to-law-enforcement/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>philosophicalcop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call on the recruiting piece.  I do wonder, however, if in this economy, the &quot;salary and benefits&quot; you discuss might be more important than you let on.  I am a cop because I love it.  I must admit, however, that in this economy my benefits and civil service protection seem all the sweeter.  That might be something to emphasize, not downplay, during this recession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call on the recruiting piece.  I do wonder, however, if in this economy, the &#8220;salary and benefits&#8221; you discuss might be more important than you let on.  I am a cop because I love it.  I must admit, however, that in this economy my benefits and civil service protection seem all the sweeter.  That might be something to emphasize, not downplay, during this recession.</p>
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